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April 10, 2009
Hang in There, Big Guy
Report: American Ship Captain Held Hostage Failed in Escape Attempt
UPDATE: WHAT?!?!?!
...Around midnight local time, Phillips jumped off the lifeboat and began swimming, according to Defense Department officials speaking on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to talk about the sensitive, unfolding operations.My Disgust O Meter is clanging and I hope it's a malfunction...One of the pirates then fired an automatic weapon, the officials said, although it was not clear if the shots were fired at Phillips or into the air, and he returned to the lifeboat.
The USS Bainbridge, which is several hundred yards away, has rescue helicopters and lifeboats but is keeping its distance, in part to stay out of the pirates' range of fire.
Its sailors were able to see Phillips moving around and talking after his return to the lifeboat, and the Defense Department officials think he is unharmed.
Posted by tree hugging sister at April 10, 2009 07:12 AM
Comments
And WHY THE HELL did the destroyer not swoop in and get him?
GodDAMN these people who want to 'negotiate' and 'hold hearings' about this.
Posted by: Mr. Bingley at April 10, 2009 08:13 AM
Seriously, as soon as they knew he was off the lifeboat, they should have blasted the thing into a million pieces.
Posted by: Dave J at April 10, 2009 08:35 AM
I agree with both of the commenters. I liked it better when we didn't negotiate with terrorists. Because that's what these pirates ARE. Maybe on a smaller scale than Hamas, and for more selfish reasons, but they're still terrorists.
Posted by: ricki at April 10, 2009 09:50 AM
I hope there's a VERY good explanation for "Hey! The guy's in the water ~ blow the shit outta them, QUICK!" NOT. It had BETTER not be, "Quick, call hdqtrs and ask them if it's okay..."
Someone in the comments over on FOX mentioned Blackhawk Down.
Posted by: tree hugging sister at April 10, 2009 10:22 AM
It all happened too quickly? How much time is needed to pull the trigger on the ma deuce? Why doesn't the Bainbridge have a fifty call aimed in on that life boat at all times? Geez louise.
And the other line in that article that got my blood boiling was the one where the hijackers are afraid they'll be arrested or shot if they hand over the American. Why isn't that their primary fear before they attempt to steal an American flagged ship? This should not be a fear, it should be a guaranteed expectation.
They should hang these vermin from the yardarms.
Posted by: Skyler at April 10, 2009 10:49 AM
I agree with you 100% Skyler.
Posted by: Mr. Bingley at April 10, 2009 05:24 PM
The leash our sailors are being kept on, no doubt, is being held by Obama. O is terrified of the thought of the hostage being killed and, given his weak, flaccid foreign policy thus far won't risk any bloodshed no matter how much the pirates deserve it.
If O gives up the two million ransom to these roaches he should face impeachment.
Posted by: Gunslinger at April 10, 2009 05:36 PM
"Millions for defense, not one cent for tribute." Those words were spoken more than 200 years ago the first time America took on pirates. I hesitate to imagine the consequences if they're no longer true.
Posted by: Dave J at April 10, 2009 06:48 PM
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Posted by: Ken S, Fifth String on the Banjo of Life at April 10, 2009 10:37 PM
Apparently we have, over the course of history, forgotten the two most important words one can utter when dealing with pirates:
No quarter.
Posted by: Boy Named Sous at April 11, 2009 12:11 AM
To be fair, after Jefferson said millions for defense, not one cent for tribute, he immediately went and paid the ransom for, irony of ironies, Capt Bainbridge and his crew to be freed. (Some say Jefferson never said this, but it was in vogue at the time nonetheless).
Yeah, the same Bainbridge that the navy ship on scene is named after.
I always wondered why they keep naming ships after him. The fact is that he was a captive of the Barbary pirates because he ran his ship aground on a shoal off the coast of Tripoli. Instead of waiting for the tide to come in, and against the pleas and protests of his much more sensible crew, Bainbridge hailed down the nearest Tripolitan ship he could see to surrender to. It took them a long time to realize that he was surrendering because they weren't attacking him and they knew that when the tide came in the ship would float away fine. Which it did, after he threatened them enough to convince them to take him and his crew prisoner.
Not all our history is as noble as it is sometimes portrayed.
Posted by: Skyler at April 11, 2009 01:05 AM
Doesn't the military have guys trained in scuba who could go under a lifeboat and, like, knock it over, or fire harpoons up their asses, or SOMEthing? I mean, I know nada about warfare but isn't there SOME course of action that can be taken rather than "sit here waiting for more pirate-terrorists to arrive"?
Posted by: Julie at April 11, 2009 01:06 AM
Or they could just hoist the damn boat up on board the ship.
There's always risks, but you'd think some tear gas would be real helpful at the same time frogmen start poking holes in the boat and others climb aboard while others are shooting. There's a good chance our heroic captain will be hurt no matter what they do or don't do. They might as well try something.
Posted by: Skyler at April 11, 2009 02:57 AM
I'm with Julie. You don't have to be James Bond to get to the lifeboat underwater, lob in a stun grenade or something instantly disarming and get him out. wtf.
Posted by: colin at April 11, 2009 10:37 AM
Well skyler, history just might repeat itself.
Posted by: Gunslinger at April 11, 2009 06:43 PM
Well Skyler, history is about to repeat itself.
Posted by: Gunslinger at April 11, 2009 07:18 PM
oops
Posted by: Gunslinger at April 11, 2009 07:18 PM
An update:
Posted by: Gunslinger at April 12, 2009 02:26 PM