If Obama Isn’t Elected, It’s Because We’re All Racists
And if he is elected, don’t worry, we’re still all racists
(CNN) — “We had a dream. Now it’s a reality.”
That’s the slogan on a popular T-shirt linking Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential run to the Rev. Martin Luther King’s dream of racial equality. It’s one of several T-shirts — including “Barack is my homeboy”– that reflect African-American’s euphoria over Obama’s White House bid.
But there are others who warn that an Obama presidency could hurt African-Americans. They say that an Obama victory could cause white Americans to ignore entrenched racial divisions while claiming that America has reached the racial Promised Land.
Paul Street, author of the forthcoming book, “Barack Obama and the Future of American Politics,” says Obama risks becoming an Oval Office version of talk-show host Oprah Winfrey. She and former Secretary of State Colin Powell are African-American figures whose popularity allows some white Americans to congratulate themselves for not being racist, he says
“They’re cited as proof that racism is no longer a significant barrier to black advancement and interracial equality,” says Street.
I mean, there’s just no getting ahead with some people. If a white votes for Obama, they’re progressive…but also racist evidently. If a white votes against Obama, they’re racist.
See? Everybody’s happy.
I don’t vote for someone because they’re a symbol or because of what they represent; anyone who does that is an ass. I vote for someone, or not for someone, because of what they say they will do…and based on what they’ve done. And when we’re talking about handing over the keys to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, well, Hope! and Change! founded on the strong convictions and inspired leadership of over 100 ‘Present’ votes doesn’t quite do it for me.
I guess I should say racist me.
I try to always follow King’s dream for his daughters, that they will live in a country where they are judged by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin. And we’re much farther down that road today than we were when he spoke those words, even though there are many folks who have made careers out of acting as though things haven’t changed at all (yes, I’m looking at you Jesse and Al); there’s a lot of money in the Institutionalized Grievance Business and those folks will actively seek to protect their turf regardless of the harm that accrues to those they claim to champion.
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July 22, 2008 12:39 pm
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The only reaching that’ll be accomplished will be for your wallet.
I see you don’t believe in Change, do you?
No, because you won’t have any Change left in your pocket either when they’re through with you.
Yeah, I saw one reporter talking to some inner-city black kids, asked “Who are you voting for?”
One kid rubbed the black skin of her arm and asked back “Who ya think?”
Scary.
Qualifications: who cares, he’s black.
Policies: who cares, he’s black.
But I’m the racist, ya see…
“And when we’re talking about handing over the keys to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, well, Hope! and Change! founded on the strong convictions and inspired leadership of over 100 ‘Present’ votes doesn’t quite do it for me.”
Right … because hope and change is ALL that he has says … he has not said a single thing about what he will do for this country other than bring hope and change … right? Nothing else at all, hunh? :-/
Sounds like you aren’t really listening. Don’t know if that is racist of you or not – but it is too bad.
don, I don’t believe in “Change” because it’s just a word. Give me specifics on your policies, and I’ll decide if I like them or dislike them and vote/act accordingly. But I find it hard to rally behind a thing called ‘change.’
Bad policies should be replaced with better ones, no doubt, and we can disagree on the solutions and perhaps even the goal, which is our right and heck even our duty as citizens, to critically examine how and what our government does in our name. But “change” for the sake of “Change”? Doesn’t do it for me.
mojo –
Being ignorant of candidantes policies are one thing. But what you are referring to goes beyond the seeming ignorance of those inner-city kids you spoke of.
Most black people tend to support democratic policies. In the past, many blacks have simply voted for the democratic nominee without knowing any specifics about the candidate – even though he was white. It wasn’t racist then. But now suddenly when these same people who are ignorant about politics decide to pick the candidate that also can better relate to what it is like to be them in this country – it is suddenly “scary” and “racist” that underinformed people are voting.
Yes, you just MAY be the racist one …
I don’t know, tatiana. I will assume you’re not the “racist” you smarmily insinuate others MAY be. (For instance, “not listening” in your estimation requires MENTIONING “racist” in your reply? I would offer “ignorance” as your excuse for such a thing.) See how easy that was?
The question of the day has already been answered by Obama supporters such as yourself. If you only vote for Obama because he’s HALF black and looks like you (picking, as YOU said, “the candidate that also can better relate to what it is like to be them in this country“) then it’s NOT racist. It’s looks-like-me-ist. But if one has always ignored color and instead looks to the substance of the man and finds him sorely lacking…it IS racist.
You, dear, and your fellow apologists are racists in hope and change clothing.
tatiana made an excellent, EXCELLENT point. whenever the shoe is placed on the other foot it’s suddenly one of the most ignorant and uninformed decisions that a voter can make.
… right! that inner-city black child should be ashamed.
@ tree hugging sister: Your point is noted, but wouldn’t that pertain to Government, period? Of course it would.
@ mr. bingley: well, to be honest, change could be defined in many ways – not just Change. maybe it’s within the eye of the beholder where true change occurs.
for instance, change could come in the form of unlocking the Bush/Clinton stronghold on the white house.
it could come in the form of an african-american as the face of american politics.
it could come in the form of both white and black america looking beyond our ‘deepest fear’ and believing that ‘…hey, i’m going to look beyond the usual politics, the skin color, the nature of what black america is perceived and known to be, the history of racism in this world…and i am actually going to vote for barack obama cause i.want.change.’
or, i could be wayyy out in left field with this one – barack obama is the better candidate. how do i know? because i believe him to be and i also read and agree with his ‘proposed’ policies. can you imagine that?
but, in truth, i think Change means all races and all political parties coming together and trying to unite and create legislation that will make this country what it is ‘supposed’ to be. a black man who can garner that much respect from both black and white voters alike stands a good chance of bringing enough of the right people together in order to create the ONCE IN A LIFETIME oppurtunity.
also, i wanted to say that i enjoyed your blog read. i really did.
Hey, if they can go out and vote, maybe next they’ll go out and get a damn job. Hate to say it, but alot of the things deemed “racist” are blatant truth for a sick majority (not saying there aren’t exceptions). Watch the murders/rapes/pillagings on the Mobile, AL news every night. Like clockwork you can tell, before a photo or name is ever shown, the race of the accused, and exactly how trailer trash/ganster they are. Why? Because it’s a social phenomena, not a social stigma. Not too many people stick you with it because your skin is a certain color, it’s how you dress, and act. Or fail to do either.
If this country wants change that all to what the Obamanauts want to preach, then the country needs to get off it’s ass and recognize that things need to change. White people don’t owe black people jack. Any more than Mexicans owe them anything. It’s in the past, how about we gain some perspective and deal with the present and the future? Oh, wait, that would get in the way of guilt ridden free hand outs. (Same reason we’re stuck with the global warming bullshit. Scientists started making money, of course they’re gonna keep playing the card) Matter of fact, I had a friend of mine once admit to me that he plays the race card simply to get things outta people he dislikes, catch is, I see that everywhere. Course, I find 80% of all human beings socially repugnant for their self-enforced ignorance, so…not surprising these idiots get my hackles up.
It’s self-delusional crap like this, straight outta the mouth of Gov Patterson. So if an unqualified individual comes to apply for a position, he should be given it simply because he’s black? That smacks of socialism as well as racism. Go Obama! I’m gonna stop ranting now, gonna give myself an ulcer. Fuck the race card. That is all.
Hmm you’re saying “most Black people vote Democratic because they believe in Democratic policies”. Really? Or do they vote that way because the Democrats have led them to believe that they really care about them and just not for their votes. So if 99% of the blacks vote for Obama because he’s black that’s not racist but if 99% of whites vote for McCain because he’s white that is racist. What a load of crap.
Well, don, I don’t see lots of folks calling West Virginians ‘racist’ because they repeatedly return that white hood wearing senator of theirs to Washington. He’s a DEMOCRAT who looks like THEM, right? Now, I LOOK like him, but I’d sure as sh*t NEVEREVERNEVER vote for him, even though we’re both white. Which I think makes me a discriminating consumer, vice a blind looks-like-me-ist. But I AM worried about ignorant, uneducated, white West Virginians voting for Robert Byrd as well. It is INDEED scary.
If he was up against, say, Gen. Russell Honore, Michael Steele or Colin Powell? I’d be voting for the black guy in spite of my pasty Irish complexion. You said:
…and you are COMPLETELY correct. But it has to be the RIGHT guy and, just because you’re the first black guy, it doesn’t make you the RIGHT one for the job.
And it doesn’t make me a racist because I don’t think he can cut the mustard. Which is where tatiana hijacks the dialogue. I hope she changes her ignorance in that respect. If people can quit flinging epithets when reason escapes them because someone disagrees, schmaybe we’ll hit that ‘all come together’.
And thank you for the compliment on the blog. We work very hard to skewer/applaud everyone pretty even-handedly.
Tatiana:
Yes, I probably am a racist to some degree. But then, I certainly can’t be blamed for my poor, underprivileged upbringing in rural Texas, can I?
However, being aware of the problem and being a human being capable of controlling the less savory aspects of my personality, I try not to let it affect my duty as a citizen.
Unlike some gang-bangerettes who vote based on skin color, for example.
Mea culpa, Domine, mea maxima culpa.
Wrong tree hugging sister.
I used the word RACIST in my reply to mojo because mojo mentioned it first.
Quoting mojo “But I’m the racist, ya see…”
Too bad you missed the sarcasm.
“Hmm you’re saying “most Black people vote Democratic because they believe in Democratic policies”. Really?”
Nope, I did not say that. I even went as far as to say that many are under informed and vote along the party line. I don’t condone it, support it, agree with it NOR do I say that I do. But voting blindly along party lines is not uncommon.
“So if 99% of the blacks vote for Obama because he’s black that’s not racist but if 99% of whites vote for McCain because he’s white that is racist. What a load of crap.”
Who does that? WHO is voting for ANYbody JUST because they are a certain color? 99% of blacks did not/ would not vote for Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton even though they were black candidates.
If anybody votes for anybody ONLY because they are a certain color or ONLY because they are not a certain color, that is racist. WHO can deny otherwise? I certainly do not. Let me again try to explain my point. The real difference here, is that for the first time a candidate has come around that is black AND viable. If anybody really can’t see why a majority of blacks would want to support him without equating it to hate for the other, that is simply because you WANT to find the negative in it.
“Which is where tatiana hijacks the dialogue. I hope she changes her ignorance in that respect. If people can quit flinging epithets when reason escapes them because someone disagrees, schmaybe we’ll hit that ‘all come together’.”
Practice what you preach, my sister. You’re way too quick to judge without comprehending completely what you’ve read, and you incorrectly assume far too much. I hope you can calm down enough to continue to keep this great discussion cordial.
You, dear, need to take a deep breath. Cordial is alive and well. I can only judge what you write and your responses to others. Like your:
I think major dad’s “most Black people vote Democratic because they believe in Democratic policies” is a pretty fair interpretation of your words, n’est pas? Even though you now say you never said it. Confusing. So calm on down, reread what you’ve written and think about how it sounds.
I’m responding to your words here:
No one has equated it to hate, if YOU read what others have written. Not one soul here. (Perhaps YOU want to “find the negative in it”?)
The entire gist of both the original post and most of the subsequent comments has been a discussion of why one is RACIST if one thinks a do-nothing, vote present, first term junior senator is unqualified to be president, when that opinion has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the color of his skin. You have written nothing to assuage that sense of injustice.
don, i couldn’t agree more about the bush/clinton dynasties. When this election cycle began I made a vow to myself that come hell or high water I would not vote for anyone named Clinton or Bush, I would not vote for anyone who went to Yale or Harvard, and I would not vote for anyone from either Arkansas or Massachusetts.
And then my worst fears were almost realized when it looked like it might be Huckabee versus Hillary. To be quite honest with you had that been the case I would have voted for Hillary. While I thank you for your kind words about our blog I also know that you therefore have an idea what that says about how I feel about Huckabee that I would vote for Hillary. 🙂
So heck yeah I want change from these folks, and frankly I would have made the above vow even if I thought everything had been super terrific since 1988 when this era began, because this dynastic creep (and at times “creeps”), and the two parties, has been a cancer on our Republic in how they have constricted the democratic process and so insulated incumbants that it is a real shock when one actually loses. So, yeah, I want there to be change, a lot of it, but I am not for change just because it’s change; I want to know what I’m getting in to.
I just don’t buy into the whole ‘deepest fear’ thingy. I don’t care if a politician is black, white, pink, orange, burnt sienna or whatever other colors are in the crayola box. When I’m looking at a politician I don’t care about his race or how it’s perceived or about the history of anything in the world. And I certainly don’t care about how the world perceives us; to paraphrase Kos: screw them. I care about America, and the thing I look at is how will this candidate help and strengthen America, because that’s the job he’s applying for.
I’m glad you’ve read his policies and thereby think he’s the better candidate; that’s what being a citizen and exercising your duty as such is all about and I wish more folks would do that. I’ve done the same and I don’t like his policies so I won’t be voting for him for reasons that would be great to discuss with you over many beers, and, like you, my reasons have nothing to do with race.
Honestly, if I have any real disagreement with you it is confined to the first half of this paragraph:
but, in truth, i think Change means all races and all political parties coming together and trying to unite and create legislation that will make this country what it is ‘supposed’ to be. a black man who can garner that much respect from both black and white voters alike stands a good chance of bringing enough of the right people together in order to create the ONCE IN A LIFETIME oppurtunity.
I’m not sure what sort of legislation you’re envisioning here, but the thought scares me a bit. Discrimination on the basis of race is rightfully outlawed already, and many companies have been properly fined because of it and forced to change their ways. But you can’t force people to like each other. I’ve “discriminated” against people who were black, white and yellow, but not because of their skin color but because they were assholes. And all assholes are pink. I’m firmly against “hate crime” legislation because it criminalizes thought, and to me that’s a frightening encroachment on the 1st Amendment, a cudgel that a ruling party can eventually wield to quell dissent. But that’s a topic for a whole ‘nother discussion.
Yeah, the “A Vote Against Obama Is A Vote For Racism” card is being played. Doncha just loooovvvvveee identity politics?
And it’s not a new card, either.
Ooooo! Here’s a a good question! It follows this post quite well…..and the answers are pretty astute as well.
Right … because hope and change is ALL that he has says … he has not said a single thing about what he will do for this country other than bring hope and change … right? Nothing else at all, hunh? :-/
tatiana, he’s said a lot of things, at times a lot of contradictory things, which frankly goes to show in a lot of ways he’s not some ‘new paradigm’ politician.
But what has he actually done? Basically…nothing. This is not to say that he isn’t a talented, honorable person who may someday have the experience and leadership record that I think we should demand of our President; not at all. In a few years he might be an excellent candidate. But as a keen, neutral observer said of Barack in 2005, I believe (and I paraphrase; the clips on the internet somewhere) : “…doesn’t have the experience right now.” That observer was, of course, Barack Obama.
But being first and foremost a politician he saw that Hillary was vulnerable and decided he had a good chance now, and by goodness he was right.
And since when does ‘listening’ have racial overtones? But thanks or giving me the benefit of the doubt.
“But thanks for giving me…
Damn fingers.
Very nice, Bingley. Sometime I wish I were the severely verbal type, instead of a simple autodidact technical GOD who has trouble spitting out two coherent sentences. I blame Captain Kangaroo. And Mr. Green Jeans, that bastard…
Ah, well. C’est la vie, nes pas?
Anyway, as to the “once in a lifetime” thing, I think the perceived wisdom has it exactly backwards, as usual. A black man in this country can become President, but if he fucks the gig up as disastrously as O’Bambi is likely to, there will never be another.
Chew on that.
Oh, I don’t know if that’s true, mojo. If he’s perceived to have been elected because of his race then the next black to run will have a tougher road initially, certainly. But in spite of all the cries that every time a female politician sniffles in public it will “set back the feminist cause 100 years” it doesn’t seem to have done any more damage to women then, well, feminism has.
But if he’s elected because the weightier portion of voters prefer his policies than I don’t see any ill effect.
I’m not so sanguine. “They” are building him up an awful lot, the media has all but crowned him “The Last, Best Hope for Mankind©”, and that’s kind of hard to follow.
I think actual, y’know, competence, if not outright brilliance, is required from the first to break the barrier. Jackie Robinson comes to mind.
Call me cynical, you won’t be the first.
tree hugging sis – I’m quite calm, thanks. You did not sound quite so calm when you went off about how you thought I was throwing the term RACIST at Mojo from out of left field and hijacked the conversation, etc. etc. Glad to hear you say otherwise – so hard to tell from your text.
You said – “I think major dad’s ‘most Black people vote Democratic because they believe in Democratic policies’ is a pretty fair interpretation of your words, n’est pas? Even though you now say you never said it. Confusing.”
Not an accurate interpretation. I will try again to clear it up. I think most black people vote democratic because they think they SHOULD support in democratic policies. It almost seems like a tradition, with many black republicans looked upon as an anomoly of sorts. Since we were talking about the politically under-informed, I highly doubt that same group of people truly understand what policies democrats represent vs republicans, even though they support them anyway.
You said “No one has equated it to hate, if YOU read what others have written. Not one soul here. (Perhaps YOU want to ‘find the negative in it’?)”
Ha. Two souls who commented here implied such. My response was directed to them, not Mr. Bingley.
You said – “The entire gist of both the original post and most of the subsequent comments has been a discussion of why one is RACIST if one thinks a do-nothing, vote present, first term junior senator is unqualified to be president, when that opinion has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the color of his skin. You have written nothing to assuage that sense of injustice.”
In my opinion, that sense of injustice is only perceived. I can not even relate to anyone assuming that everybody who does not vote for Obama must be a racist (or that all white persons who do vote for Obama still racists, just progressive). I wish I could say that I have the stats proving that the majority of folks are not thinking at any white who will vote for McCain MUST be racist. I even have a hard time believing that journalists who write material suggesting such truly believe that deep down, I think they are merely pushing an emotional agenda. But I have no proof of that and could very well be wrong. I can only hope not.
You’re not cynical, mojo, especially in view of this Hopey Changiness™ that’s permeating this election. Check out how fast Hillary was thrown under the bus when she was perceived to be Less Than The Perfect Candidate.
If Obama screws the pooch as President (as I expect he will do, especially with Pelosi and Reid running Congress), expect not only a much tougher time for the next black American running for President, look out for the angry mobs before the end of The Messiah™’s term.
But I have no proof of that and could very well be wrong. I can only hope not.
And that’s the basic problem of your entire, ummmm, argument, tatiana. You are the one with the emotional agenda, you just lack the self-honesty to admit it.
I can not even relate to anyone assuming that everybody who does not vote for Obama must be a racist (or that all white persons who do vote for Obama still racists, just progressive).
I’m with you 100% on that one.
I even have a hard time believing that journalists who write material suggesting such truly believe that deep down, I think they are merely pushing an emotional agenda. But I have no proof of that and could very well be wrong.
So much for the vaunted ‘impartiality’ of the Press, though, eh? It’s a very sad and troubling sign, tatiana. While I share your hope, it leaves us with either a media that seems to believe that the majority of whites are unrepentant racists or a media that has a strident political agenda to push and they will do so by what ever poisonous means are necessary. Neither is very comforting.
If Obama screws the pooch as President (as I expect he will do, especially with Pelosi and Reid running Congress), expect not only a much tougher time for the next black American running for President, look out for the angry mobs before the end of The Messiah™’s term.
If/when he’s elected he becomes OUR President, and as long as he hasn’t violated the Constitution I will stand in front of the White House to defend it and him from and angry mobs.
God forbid that such thoughts will enter in to anyone’s mind. We have elections and you live with the results and vote the bastards out later.
Mr. Bingley, so would I. I remained in the National Guard even though Billy Jeff was the Commander-In-Chief. He never violated the Constitution, just the White House.
But it’s not you, or people like you, that I’m thinking about. Many people (mostly on the left, but certainly not exclusively so) are becoming so emotionally invested in politics, with a focus on how they feel, that they are willing to place themselves above the Constitution to get what they want.
If Congresscritters are willing to muzzle their own, what’s to stop dissatisfied nutroots (for example) from turning a demonstration into a riot to make their point about Hope And Change&trades;? Remember, emotional responses are easy to provoke with angry people who are emotionally invested in their savior. That downhill slide into the abyss is awful easy at times.
But that’s not to say that I expect rioting, let alone want it. But Obama is such a wind sock that I expect his problems will arise from trying to please everyone, and failing to please anyone. Under such conditions, who knows what might happen?
Okay, tatiana. I throw in the towel. You said it but you didn’t. Others implied hate, so you said it, but you didn’t. You got all fired up, but you didn’t and I did, so you said. You were serious, but I should have realized you were sarcastic, even when you weren’t. Jeez louise.
Cha.
@ mojo: you’re 8:21pm comment was hilarious. I think you missed your calling and should immediately stop whatever you do for income and become a full-time comedian. Either that, or a colorful clown.
@ mr. bingley: you personally may believe otherwise when it comes to the deepest fears of many Americans, but the majority of people have deeply-rooted issues concerning black people, period. That goes without saying. Unless I am dead and don’t know it, I think it’s CLEAR that Barack Obama has touched the spirit of the people who recognize the need for accountability, no matter the color.
And I wonder if anyone will address the comment Tatiana made when she expressed how not even black people voted for former black candidates Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson.
Also, the statement I made concerning Barack Obama being the once in a lifetime black candidate who can create a respectable form of unity amongst those who are willing to unite…meaning, in agreement, if Barack doesn’t become one of the best presidents this country has seen, I doubt very seriously if we will ever witness another black man as president again.
At least not in our lifetime, we won’t.
hey don
i haven’t looked for the sharpton data yet, and the data for jackson is tougher to find than i expected, but according to this from the NYT in 1988
“In 1984, Mr. Jackson received 77 percent of the black vote, which translated into a total of 2.3 million ballots. In 1988, Mr. Jackson won a larger share of a bigger black vote. He got 92 percent of all ballots cast by blacks this year.”
Which i would think should deflate her point somewhat.
“And that’s the basic problem of your entire, ummmm, argument, tatiana. You are the one with the emotional agenda, you just lack the self-honesty to admit it.”
*shrugs* if you say so. I’d be interested to hear just what you think that emotional agenda of mine is? Especially since, although I disagree with folks that Obama is not a great candidate, I otherwise agree with him. Please share.
“While I share your hope, it leaves us with either a media that seems to believe that the majority of whites are unrepentant racists or a media that has a strident political agenda to push and they will do so by what ever poisonous means are necessary. Neither is very comforting.”
No Mr Bingley, neither is very comforting. It disturbs me to the point that I’ve been discrediting a lot I hear in the media regarding recent politics, and to the point I *think* The Real Jeff was trying to make, I am not sure if that is a good attitude for me to take or not.
But I am pretty much at the point where I feel as though some in the media are pushing racially divisive political tactics against a country already suffering with racial conflict. Because they can’t REALLY believe some of the stuff they are saying … can they? Perhaps I am giving people too much of the benefit of a doubt.
From a quick googling this shows that sharpton’s results were poor among blacks, as in fact they were very poor among all groups. Although he’s never played well on a national stage, his poor showing even in his home base was a bit of a shock to folks.
@ tree hugging sis – cha!
“In 1984, Mr. Jackson received 77 percent of the black vote, which translated into a total of 2.3 million ballots. In 1988, Mr. Jackson won a larger share of a bigger black vote. He got 92 percent of all ballots cast by blacks this year.”
Which i would think should deflate her point somewhat.
Really? 77 and 92% for Jackson? If these are accurate, that would indeed deflate my point some! Although, with a total 2.3 million ballots when the population in 1988 was around 250 million, which means there were about 25 million blacks, that 2.3 million is a low percentage of blacks casting ballots period. The high percentage of those that DID vote … diminishes my point, yes … but still it can be seen that blacks were not flocking to vote for Mr. Jackson.
Any chance you also saw some stats on the total votes for Obama?
i thought of that point tatiana, trying to figure out percentage of eligible folks who cast ballots, etc, but that requires a bit more effort than i can afford to expend in the middle of the day when there are other things i really ought to be doing… 🙂
when the population in 1988 was around 250 million, which means there were about 25 million blacks, that 2.3 million is a low percentage of blacks casting ballots period.
well, but if you figure, what, half(?) of those 25 million are kids and thus not eligible that brings you up to roughly 20% of eligible black voters voted in the primary in 1988, which seems comparable to the number for nationwide voter turn out this year.
i think either realclearpolitics or cnn probably has fairly detailed stats on this year’s voter turnouts, which should give you obama’s numbers.
Yes, I too agree with blacks did not arrive at the polls in droves to vote for Jesse Jackson nor Al Sharpton. If ten of eleven black voters cast their vote for Jackson, I am sure that would show a large majority of blacks voted for Jackson.
By chance, if ten of eleven million voters selected Obama, then not only does it show how ‘effective’ of a candidate he undeniably is … it also reinforces Tatiana’s point-proved position that, no, it’s never simply about one’s skin color when it comes to black voters.
There has to be substance.
I wondered – do you feel there is a better candidate to lead the country other than Obama? Well, besides Ron Paul, do you feel there is anyon else?
there’s a long list of people i would vote for, including obama, before i voted for ron paul; paul is one scary whacked out dude.
on the republican side i preferred fred thompson; i liked his stances on most issues.
i’m not a huge fan of john mccain, for a variety of reasons, but i will vote for him over obama. in 4 years i may well give a different answer.